Depression Therapists in Dallas, TX

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Heidi L. Southern
Licensed Professional Counselor, MA, LPC
Verified Verified
Dallas, TX 75252  (Online Only)
I specialize in teaching adults how to have a more satisfying sense of control over their own lives, and a greater sense of connection to themselves and others through individualized, supportive therapy sessions. Stress makes us anxious. When we are anxious, we become reactive and defensive. Each of us has a unique set of unconscious, habitual coping strategies that kicks-in automatically under stress. I use a unique combination of therapeutic tools to teach men and women how to respond rather than react to the big and the small and the positive and the negative stressors that life deals us.
I specialize in teaching adults how to have a more satisfying sense of control over their own lives, and a greater sense of connection to themselves and others through individualized, supportive therapy sessions. Stress makes us anxious. When we are anxious, we become reactive and defensive. Each of us has a unique set of unconscious, habitual coping strategies that kicks-in automatically under stress. I use a unique combination of therapeutic tools to teach men and women how to respond rather than react to the big and the small and the positive and the negative stressors that life deals us.
(520) 386-0106 View (520) 386-0106
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LaShondra Brown
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LMSW
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Dallas, TX 75203  (Online Only)
I enjoy the process of helping my clients, besides my vocation, it is my passion and I have been in the social work field for more than a decade. Through online therapy I have had the opportunity to help people both near and far from me. It's time that the fact of going to therapy stopped being stigmatized, so one of my goals is that the client feels comfortable during the process. Telling how we feel does not make us weak, on the contrary, it is the first and most important step to feel better, that is why at One Alkaline Life we have always focused on offering you the best to accompany you in your learning process.
I enjoy the process of helping my clients, besides my vocation, it is my passion and I have been in the social work field for more than a decade. Through online therapy I have had the opportunity to help people both near and far from me. It's time that the fact of going to therapy stopped being stigmatized, so one of my goals is that the client feels comfortable during the process. Telling how we feel does not make us weak, on the contrary, it is the first and most important step to feel better, that is why at One Alkaline Life we have always focused on offering you the best to accompany you in your learning process.
(903) 282-3435 View (903) 282-3435
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Stacie Garcia Truenorth Therapy Pllc
Licensed Professional Counselor, MS, LPCA, NCC
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Dallas, TX 75201
Parents want what is best for their child and they want someone that will let their child learn and explore their experiences in a safe environment. You want to learn how to support your child/adolescent at home by gaining resources and tools that will improve relationships and behaviors. I help individuals, groups, parents, children, adolescents, and adults navigate through their thoughts, feelings, and behaviors. I work with issues of depression, grief, anxiety, behavior, self-harm, suicidality, and neurodiversity. You want someone that will listen and assist you in meeting your goals and I will guide you along the way.
Parents want what is best for their child and they want someone that will let their child learn and explore their experiences in a safe environment. You want to learn how to support your child/adolescent at home by gaining resources and tools that will improve relationships and behaviors. I help individuals, groups, parents, children, adolescents, and adults navigate through their thoughts, feelings, and behaviors. I work with issues of depression, grief, anxiety, behavior, self-harm, suicidality, and neurodiversity. You want someone that will listen and assist you in meeting your goals and I will guide you along the way.
(903) 200-1303 View (903) 200-1303
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Cristian Rideaux
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW
Verified Verified
Dallas, TX 75217
Hi, my name is Cristian Rideaux, and I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker. I have experience working with young adults with anxiety, stress, and depression. I use a variety of modalities such as CBT, DBT, or MI to help my clients make progress toward their goals. I have experience working with many different age groups and mental health diagnoses. I have experience working with individuals with depression, anxiety, and bipolar disorder. I work with each client to help them understand their symptoms and find ways to cope.
Hi, my name is Cristian Rideaux, and I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker. I have experience working with young adults with anxiety, stress, and depression. I use a variety of modalities such as CBT, DBT, or MI to help my clients make progress toward their goals. I have experience working with many different age groups and mental health diagnoses. I have experience working with individuals with depression, anxiety, and bipolar disorder. I work with each client to help them understand their symptoms and find ways to cope.
(469) 833-4680 View (469) 833-4680
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Mariel Jen. Gonzalez
Licensed Professional Counselor, MEd, EMDR
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Dallas, TX 75254
Hi, I am Mariel, a Bilingual (English and Spanish) master's level licensed counselor. If you’re struggling with communication issues in your relationships, I can help. Do you feel disconnected or distant from loved ones? Are you facing challenges such as infidelity, trust issues, or concerns? I have experience and expertise in fostering healthy and fulfilling relationships in South Texas. I understand you seek counseling to build solid foundations and resilience for relationships. Seeking support when facing challenges is okay. My goal is to treat you so you feel confident.
Hi, I am Mariel, a Bilingual (English and Spanish) master's level licensed counselor. If you’re struggling with communication issues in your relationships, I can help. Do you feel disconnected or distant from loved ones? Are you facing challenges such as infidelity, trust issues, or concerns? I have experience and expertise in fostering healthy and fulfilling relationships in South Texas. I understand you seek counseling to build solid foundations and resilience for relationships. Seeking support when facing challenges is okay. My goal is to treat you so you feel confident.
(956) 253-1940 View (956) 253-1940
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Molly Propst
Licensed Professional Counselor, MS, LPC
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Dallas, TX 75254  (Online Only)
Whether you’re seeking support for managing anxiety and depression, navigating the intricacies of neurodivergence, or processing past traumas, I am here to provide you with the compassionate guidance and tools to help you thrive.
I am committed to providing compassionate and individualized support to adolescents and adults navigating the complexities of life. With a person-centered and holistic approach, I strive to create a safe and non-judgmental space where every client feels truly heard, understood, and validated. I am trained in EMDR and approach every client from a trauma-informed lens. I want my clients to know that they have someone who understands what it feels like to be on the other side of the couch. I believe that each person is unique and deserving of tailored support that honors their individual experiences, strengths, and needs.
Whether you’re seeking support for managing anxiety and depression, navigating the intricacies of neurodivergence, or processing past traumas, I am here to provide you with the compassionate guidance and tools to help you thrive.
I am committed to providing compassionate and individualized support to adolescents and adults navigating the complexities of life. With a person-centered and holistic approach, I strive to create a safe and non-judgmental space where every client feels truly heard, understood, and validated. I am trained in EMDR and approach every client from a trauma-informed lens. I want my clients to know that they have someone who understands what it feels like to be on the other side of the couch. I believe that each person is unique and deserving of tailored support that honors their individual experiences, strengths, and needs.
(469) 375-1221 View (469) 375-1221
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Shannon Purtell
Licensed Professional Counselor, NCC, LPC-S, CART
Verified Verified
7 Endorsed
Dallas, TX 75287
I have a passion for helping clients through difficult life circumstances and transitions. Helping clients improve their health and well-being is my one of my greatest joys and the reason I became a therapist. I have over 20 years experience helping clients with mood disorders, depression, anxiety, trauma and problematic anger.
I have a passion for helping clients through difficult life circumstances and transitions. Helping clients improve their health and well-being is my one of my greatest joys and the reason I became a therapist. I have over 20 years experience helping clients with mood disorders, depression, anxiety, trauma and problematic anger.
(972) 316-7325 View (972) 316-7325
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Vielka Johnson
Licensed Professional Counselor, LPC
Verified Verified
Dallas, TX 75202  (Online Only)
My name is Vielka E. Johnson. I received my BA in Psychology in 1996 from the University of Colorado. In 1998, I relocated to San Antonio, TX, and pursued my master's degree in counseling. By 2006, I received my counseling license from the Texas State Board of Examiners, becoming a Licensed Professional Counselor. I have been fortunate to have worked with such a diverse population within our community. My background primarily is with children and adolescents ages 3 to 18; however, I have worked with young adults and adults up to the ages of 65+.
My name is Vielka E. Johnson. I received my BA in Psychology in 1996 from the University of Colorado. In 1998, I relocated to San Antonio, TX, and pursued my master's degree in counseling. By 2006, I received my counseling license from the Texas State Board of Examiners, becoming a Licensed Professional Counselor. I have been fortunate to have worked with such a diverse population within our community. My background primarily is with children and adolescents ages 3 to 18; however, I have worked with young adults and adults up to the ages of 65+.
(214) 466-6282 View (214) 466-6282
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Andrea Laskowski
Licensed Professional Counselor, LPC, LMFT
Verified Verified
Dallas, TX 75228
I'm Andrea, a postmodern and strengths-based therapist with four years of clinical experience who sees individuals, romantic couples, and families. Some areas I have focused on in my work include Infidelity, Relationship Issues, Marital/Pre-Marital, Grief, and Men's Issues. My therapeutic approach is nondirective and client-focused, utilizing a mix of Couples Therapy, Family Systems, Gottman Method, Marital, and Solution Focused Brief (SFBT). I believe I can help you co-create solutions to various situations and problems in your life.
I'm Andrea, a postmodern and strengths-based therapist with four years of clinical experience who sees individuals, romantic couples, and families. Some areas I have focused on in my work include Infidelity, Relationship Issues, Marital/Pre-Marital, Grief, and Men's Issues. My therapeutic approach is nondirective and client-focused, utilizing a mix of Couples Therapy, Family Systems, Gottman Method, Marital, and Solution Focused Brief (SFBT). I believe I can help you co-create solutions to various situations and problems in your life.
(214) 617-1553 View (214) 617-1553
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Beth Carpenter
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT-S, LPC-S, CEDS
Verified Verified
3 Endorsed
Dallas, TX 75248
There are many reasons to seek therapy, and I consider it an honor to support clients during this courageous journey. I work hard to provide a nurturing, non-judgmental space where it is safe to be vulnerable, and I help my clients feel empowered to make changes towards growth and healing. Having specialized training and fifteen years experience as a Marriage and Family Therapist, I believe in the power of relationships and the transformative experience of feeling truly accepted and seen. It can feel scary to open up, and I can support you by collaborating with you throughout the process.
There are many reasons to seek therapy, and I consider it an honor to support clients during this courageous journey. I work hard to provide a nurturing, non-judgmental space where it is safe to be vulnerable, and I help my clients feel empowered to make changes towards growth and healing. Having specialized training and fifteen years experience as a Marriage and Family Therapist, I believe in the power of relationships and the transformative experience of feeling truly accepted and seen. It can feel scary to open up, and I can support you by collaborating with you throughout the process.
(469) 423-8709 View (469) 423-8709
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Carrie Eggart
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, MSW, LMSW, LCDC
Verified Verified
Dallas, TX 75240
I am passionate about my clients and believe in the therapeutic process. If my client is ready, willing, and committed, change is possible! Successful treatment is achieved through mutual trust and respect cultivated in a safe, kind, judgment-free space.
I am passionate about my clients and believe in the therapeutic process. If my client is ready, willing, and committed, change is possible! Successful treatment is achieved through mutual trust and respect cultivated in a safe, kind, judgment-free space.
(469) 256-4850 View (469) 256-4850
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Beauty in Brokenness Counseling Solutions
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, MSSW, LCSW
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Dallas, TX 75231  (Online Only)
Hi I'm Rochelle, a proud combat veteran! I'm licensed in NC, TX, IA, CO, NH, and FL. I get it. Sometimes you may feel stuck and experience overwhelming emotions. My role as your therapist is to work along side you to help you understand how your past may be in your present. I work with adult individuals who have a variety of personal issues such as depression, anxiety, and trauma to help them connect how those issues may rooted in unresolved trauma, childhood adversities, or relational stresses.
Hi I'm Rochelle, a proud combat veteran! I'm licensed in NC, TX, IA, CO, NH, and FL. I get it. Sometimes you may feel stuck and experience overwhelming emotions. My role as your therapist is to work along side you to help you understand how your past may be in your present. I work with adult individuals who have a variety of personal issues such as depression, anxiety, and trauma to help them connect how those issues may rooted in unresolved trauma, childhood adversities, or relational stresses.
(754) 254-6087 View (754) 254-6087
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Lindsey Cotton
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW-S
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Dallas, TX 75203  (Online Only)
Hello, I’m Lindsey Cotton. I have experience working with adolescents, adults, and families to address a range of mental health and behavioral problems. My approach is accepting, affirmative, and collaborative. I seek to provide a secure, non-judgmental, and encouraging environment that will lead to growth and give you room to challenge yourself.
Hello, I’m Lindsey Cotton. I have experience working with adolescents, adults, and families to address a range of mental health and behavioral problems. My approach is accepting, affirmative, and collaborative. I seek to provide a secure, non-judgmental, and encouraging environment that will lead to growth and give you room to challenge yourself.
(832) 583-2220 View (832) 583-2220
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Greg Powers
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSWS
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Dallas, TX 75206
Greg Powers serves as the Vice President of Clinical Services for Discovery Point Retreat. Greg holds dual Bachelor degrees in Sociology and Criminal Justice from the University of Texas and completed his education with a Master’s Degree in Social Work from Tulane University in New Orleans. Greg has specialized in the treatment of substance abuse, grief and loss as well as trauma. Greg is certified in EMDR and trauma response and crisis interventions along with a certification in crisis intervention with first responders. Throughout his career Greg has held positions of leadership in both for-profit and non-profit facilities.
Greg Powers serves as the Vice President of Clinical Services for Discovery Point Retreat. Greg holds dual Bachelor degrees in Sociology and Criminal Justice from the University of Texas and completed his education with a Master’s Degree in Social Work from Tulane University in New Orleans. Greg has specialized in the treatment of substance abuse, grief and loss as well as trauma. Greg is certified in EMDR and trauma response and crisis interventions along with a certification in crisis intervention with first responders. Throughout his career Greg has held positions of leadership in both for-profit and non-profit facilities.
(469) 224-5044 View (469) 224-5044
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Lisa Travis Galliano
Licensed Professional Counselor, MS, LPC-S, NCC, BCC
Verified Verified
9 Endorsed
Dallas, TX 75248
Waitlist for new clients
I specialize in trauma resolution, PTSD, depression, anxiety, substance abuse, grief and relationship issues.
We all face challenging and overwhelming times in our lives. These include realizing we are unhappy with life as it is, the concern we'll never be able to live the life we want in order to be happy, stress, grief and loss, unresolved trauma, as well as other issues. I strongly believe that it is not what is wrong with us, it is what happened to us that creates the struggles we have. I use an eclectic, integrated approach to treatment that fits the unique needs of each client. I offer a safe, supportive environment and consider it an honor to work with clients toward healing and achieving the changes they want to make.
I specialize in trauma resolution, PTSD, depression, anxiety, substance abuse, grief and relationship issues.
We all face challenging and overwhelming times in our lives. These include realizing we are unhappy with life as it is, the concern we'll never be able to live the life we want in order to be happy, stress, grief and loss, unresolved trauma, as well as other issues. I strongly believe that it is not what is wrong with us, it is what happened to us that creates the struggles we have. I use an eclectic, integrated approach to treatment that fits the unique needs of each client. I offer a safe, supportive environment and consider it an honor to work with clients toward healing and achieving the changes they want to make.
(972) 992-5298 View (972) 992-5298
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Self-Esteem + Anxiety + Introvert Support At Fitzpatrick Therapy
Licensed Professional Counselor, MA, LPC
Verified Verified
Dallas, TX 75240  (Online Only)
You want to appear more outgoing, productive, and like you are “on top of things” but deep down you are struggling to cope with anxiety and low self-esteem. You're someone who enjoys your alone time but still finds yourself wanting to be active and feel included. You want to feel less exhausted and find that too many things going on at once can leave you feeling frazzled. You also may struggle with overanalyzing a past conversation you had or maybe you feel self-critical. You're ready to start feeling some relief, hope, and happiness again. Most of all, you are ready to feel less anxious and stressed. I want to help you get there!
You want to appear more outgoing, productive, and like you are “on top of things” but deep down you are struggling to cope with anxiety and low self-esteem. You're someone who enjoys your alone time but still finds yourself wanting to be active and feel included. You want to feel less exhausted and find that too many things going on at once can leave you feeling frazzled. You also may struggle with overanalyzing a past conversation you had or maybe you feel self-critical. You're ready to start feeling some relief, hope, and happiness again. Most of all, you are ready to feel less anxious and stressed. I want to help you get there!
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Abdi Zelaya
Licensed Professional Counselor, MA, LPC
Verified Verified
Dallas, TX 75203
Waitlist for new clients
I am a bilingual and bicultural therapist and I am honored to walk with clients as they navigate various life challenges. I thrive to establish a safe therapeutic relationship with clients who have experienced trauma and difficult life circumstances. I am an EMDR trained therapist and understand that early life experiences affect and mold how we walk through life. My goal in the therapeutic process is to meet the client where they are at and offer a culturally sensitive approach to their challenges. I hope to hold a safe space for each client as they navigate and find their healing.
I am a bilingual and bicultural therapist and I am honored to walk with clients as they navigate various life challenges. I thrive to establish a safe therapeutic relationship with clients who have experienced trauma and difficult life circumstances. I am an EMDR trained therapist and understand that early life experiences affect and mold how we walk through life. My goal in the therapeutic process is to meet the client where they are at and offer a culturally sensitive approach to their challenges. I hope to hold a safe space for each client as they navigate and find their healing.
(972) 480-6128 View (972) 480-6128
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A Brighter Destiny Family and Children Services
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW
Verified Verified
Dallas, TX 75237  (Online Only)
A Brighter Destiny Family & Children Services, LLC has been committed to bringing support, hope and healing to those facing significant life challenges. Our methods have developed over the years, and with increasing resources, support and growing community awareness, we are able to change the lives of those facing social and emotional hardships for the better.Licensed Clincial Social Worker with over 12 years experience providing therapeutic services to children and families.
A Brighter Destiny Family & Children Services, LLC has been committed to bringing support, hope and healing to those facing significant life challenges. Our methods have developed over the years, and with increasing resources, support and growing community awareness, we are able to change the lives of those facing social and emotional hardships for the better.Licensed Clincial Social Worker with over 12 years experience providing therapeutic services to children and families.
(469) 532-5200 View (469) 532-5200
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Zahara Williams
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW-S
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Dallas, TX 75219  (Online Only)
I approach therapy with the ideology that life is a culmination of interconnected parts. Feelings stem from experiences, experiences influence perceptions, and subsequently guide many of the decisions one makes in life. When individuals experience stagnation or challenges, it may be connected to an array of life experiences. This may lead to a challenge with seeing beyond that which is. The subsequent result may serve as a breeding ground for emotional and physical pain, challenges in interpersonal relationships and unresolved grief.
I approach therapy with the ideology that life is a culmination of interconnected parts. Feelings stem from experiences, experiences influence perceptions, and subsequently guide many of the decisions one makes in life. When individuals experience stagnation or challenges, it may be connected to an array of life experiences. This may lead to a challenge with seeing beyond that which is. The subsequent result may serve as a breeding ground for emotional and physical pain, challenges in interpersonal relationships and unresolved grief.
(214) 225-8560 View (214) 225-8560
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Ashley Zamboanga
Licensed Professional Counselor Associate, LPC-A, MEd
Verified Verified
3 Endorsed
Dallas, TX 75229  (Online Only)
Hi there! I'm Ashley, a Licensed Professional Counselor Associate with eight years of experience, both in schools and private practice. My approach is grounded in creating a supportive and welcoming environment where clients feel comfortable being their authentic selves. My passion? Supporting individuals on their journey toward self-discovery and growth. Together, we'll develop actionable goals that promote acceptance, mindfulness, and are aligned with your values. My ultimate aim is to empower you with the tools and confidence to navigate life's challenges effectively.
Hi there! I'm Ashley, a Licensed Professional Counselor Associate with eight years of experience, both in schools and private practice. My approach is grounded in creating a supportive and welcoming environment where clients feel comfortable being their authentic selves. My passion? Supporting individuals on their journey toward self-discovery and growth. Together, we'll develop actionable goals that promote acceptance, mindfulness, and are aligned with your values. My ultimate aim is to empower you with the tools and confidence to navigate life's challenges effectively.
(469) 529-8477 View (469) 529-8477
Depression Therapists

What is the goal of therapy for depression?

Therapy for depression has several major goals. One is to relieve the mental pain of depression, which distorts feeling and thinking so that sufferers cannot see beyond their current state of mind or envision feeling better. Another is to give people the mental tools to recognize and correct the kinds of distorted thinking that turn a problem into a catastrophe and lead to despair. Therapy also teaches people how to process negative emotions in constructive ways, so they have more control over their own emotional reactivity. And it helps people regain the ability to see themselves positively, the motivation to do things, and the capacity for pleasure.

What happens in therapy for depression?

Perhaps most important, no matter the type of therapy, patients form an alliance with the therapist; that connection is therapeutic in itself, plus it becomes an instrument of change. Patients learn to identify and to challenge their own erroneous beliefs and thoughts that amplify the effects of negative experiences. They learn to identify situations in which they are especially vulnerable. And they learn new patterns of thinking and behaving. They may be given “homework” assignments in which they practice their developing skills. In addition, good therapists regularly monitor patients to assess whether and how much the condition is improving.

What therapy types help with depression?

Several types of short-term therapy have been found effective, each targeting one or more areas of dysfunction. Cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) helps clients challenge their negative thoughts and beliefs, learn new behavioral strategies, and curb reactivity to distressing situations. Behavioral activation (BA) is a form of therapy often used in conjunction with CBT; it focuses on engagement in rewarding activity as a pathway to changing negative feelings and disturbed mood. Another widely used approach is interpersonal therapy (IPT), which targets the social difficulties that both give rise to and get exacerbated by depression. Therapists may combine approaches as needed.

Can therapy for depression be done online?

Studies have found that online therapy can be highly effective for treating depression, although it may be more challenging to build a good therapist-patient alliance on screen than in person—at least at first. However, online therapy can offer considerable advantages. Accessibility and convenience are tops among them. Some people actually find it easier to talk about problems online than in person. While online therapy typically limits visibility of facial expression and body gestures that give important nonverbal cues to a patient’s state of mind, it can give therapists a glimpse into a patient’s world and life, providing information that can be highly useful in guiding therapy.

How effective is therapy for depression?

Many studies show that therapy is highly effective provided that patients complete the prescribed course of therapy, commonly 16 to 20 sessions. Over the long term, it is more effective than medication and the effects are more enduring. As a result, psychotherapy has the power not just to relieve current suffering but to prevent future episodes of the disorder. Therapy reverses the dysfunction in neural circuitry that disposes individuals to a negative view of themselves, the world, and their future and they acquire coping techniques, problem-solving skills, and understanding of their own vulnerabilities that are useful over the course of a lifetime.